November 14-15, 2015
Leeds, United Kingdom - Meg
Awwww. The card’s so cute, in the curious kinda clueless sort of way. The name choice made me laugh, Fred? 😀
And, I don’t think Ben approves. At all. Just look at that frown!
Ben is being protective.
…its official……a plushie of that card needs to be made….XD
I’d be just as impressed if that was the name being given to me…
I don’t like all those “it”s that Ben is using! Dehumanization is never a good sign…
Well, it’s a card. It may not have a gender. Calling it “he” may be an anthropomorphication that, if the card understood the language, would squick the poor thing out like woah. “They think I have… THOSE bits? EWWWWWWWWW!”
(I read stuff with neuter-gender stuff all the time, where the appropriate pronoun is “it.” Acknowledging something is alien isn’t the same as dehumanizing…)
Technically, an alient isn’t a human… So… Acknowledging something as alien IS the same thing as dehumanizing.
Well, there’s de-humanizing and there’s de-personizing. It is possible to do one without the other; de-personizing may be a bad sign. Recognizing non-humaness, not necessarily a bad sign at all. Possibly a good sign. Chocolate is yummy for humans, but poison for cats — recognize the cat is not human, and don’t feed it chocolate!
I really wish the English language had a gender neutral singular third person pronoun. Most people swipe ‘they’ but it gets awkward when it’s not a hypothetical being and an actual individual…
I say we invent one.
A gender neutral term would be damn useful. I think Ben was calling the card “it” for several reasons. 1. Calling the card “it” maintains emotional distance, and considering they are essentially hostages of a living card at the moment, I can understand where Ben is coming from. Ben doesn’t have our perspective and doesn’t know WTF is going on. 2. I honestly think Ben’s trying to be polite. Calling the card a “he” could be very bad if the Card is gender neutral or female. 3. They didn’t exactly meet under happy circumstances. So let’s cut Ben some slack on this one people.
That’s pretty much the reason. To Ben, it’s a magical card. Not a person, at the moment.
To confirm though, the card here is technically “male”, but I have to admit that making them a gender-neutral race would have been a really cool thing.
The card isn’t human.
And why should using “it” matter?
Everyone is an “it”. Everything else is secondary.
FRED!! I love it!! he heeeee!!!
Fred!! How adorable! And I really like Elaine’s thought process of how to name the card.
Card. Hugs. Now.
I can’t tell if the Card’s expression in the last panel is “I’m curious, what does “Fred” mean” or “THAT’S the best you could come up with??” or sarcasim as in “I all ready have a name thank you, wtf did FRED come from?”
Laughed so hard! “Fwed”. OMG
Has this page ALSO been redone and reuploaded? I know it’s been a long time since I read this page, but i thought I’d check out this chapter, what with the Members of Calliope being brought back into the story.
Ben says “We just know how to say it (Five of Heart’s name, which would become Fred)” – but did he forget to say “Don’t” in the sentence?
You’re right. This was one of the pages changed for the book version, mainly to update the art and I had to re-lay out the text. Fixing!
Yeah . . . sorry for pointing that out.
But I presume this won’t be a problem in the printed volume?
Nope, it’ll be fixed here and in the printed book! And don’t be sorry for pointing it out! I’m grateful!
Heh! I totally interpolated a “don’t” in that sentence, because my brain knew it had to be there from context. After reading this I had to page up and check to be sure it wasn’t actually fixed yet.
Yeah, I haven’t gotten to it yet. Soon though! I’ve got to finish preparing the pages for the printer. Oh, and I’ve been enjoying reading all your comments.
Still not yet?
Still not yet.
Hmm… I can see why you didn’t use five and heart.
That. Card. Is. So. Freaking. CUUUUUUUUUUTE.
I can just imagine Elaine holding onto fred and presenting him to Emma “Can we keep him please!? He’s so cute!”
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