I’m guessing that in a world where names have power, selling your name is like selling your soul. “Namesake” kinda makes that a very strong possibility.
Presumably you get some kind of power as a Nameless — but probably the kind that’s dark and creepy all around, and you work for someone (someTHING) that’s REALLY not-nice.
Nice to see Jack trying to save the nice side there, but given the time (early in the game) I’m assuming it won’t work. I have to wonder which Jack he is — there’s a LOT of Jacks in fairy tales, not to mention other media. Though he’s clearly not Captain Jack Sparrow (or Captain Jack Harkness, for that matter).
I love the two Jacks u mentioned, I must say that I prefer Harkness over Sparrow, but the actors are switched.
This is getting very interesting, however if I remember correctly the girl in the fairy tail that Karen is based off of is a brat, so to have her seem so innocent is a little confusing to me.
There was another story I remember, (barely any details though) about selling your name… I wonder if that is connected also…hmmm, curiouser and curiouser…
Captain Jack Harkness is definitely a favorite here, and I do picture him at times in my mind while writing – the Ninth Doctor version, not so much the Torchwood version.
Well this part, the “46″ thing…it reminds me a to “Spirited Away” when Yubaba; the old lady; takes away a part of the name of Chihiro and reduces it to Sen, giving her a “new” identity. I just could’n help to think about it ha ha.
Oh, and one more thing…why is Jack’s hand burned, I wonder?
Oh, “Spirited away!” good call. That’s one of my favorite movies. In many fairy tales (and in Asian culture) the name itself, owning it, knowing it, has immense power over a person. It’s one of the reason why stealing Yubaba’s sister’s gold seal (aka her signature) is a pretty mean thing to do.
Oh, i’d love to tell you guys about Jack’s hand. Too bad I can’t! *laughs* Future plot points.
hiya! oh wow! a story based on stories, archetypes and authors! this is truly a gem of all gems. the name selling is shocking (and accurate too! and hell yeah, I love studio Ghibli) and i’m intrigued to see WHICH Jack this is. Plus I grinned at the “girl with silver hands” reference and I actually thought the girl in the wheelchair was a reference to “wicked”….till I heard her name. My dad loved that fairy tale but he never told me about it till I studied in college. He told me he once did a paper on it. Wonder what he’ll think when he sees what “46″ did to her.
I’m so sorry for ranting, but please, I want you to know that you have made an instant fan out of me. I grew up loving nursery rhymes, fairy tales and ultimately, books- from classics to modern lit. I will be eagerly awaiting an update.
*laughs* I’m very glad you love this so much. I am myself a great literature/fairy tale fan! I always fall in love with stories like Namesake, so I wanted to create my own.
The girl without silver hands is one of my favorites. I’m glad your father was a fan of the “red shoes”. I find it’s a really unknown one that deserves more love.
That story was unknown? Hahahah! I came across the Red Shoes when I bought a book for “extremely intellegent minds”. It had everything! It was a collection of poems and prose from different authors. I spent my highschool reading that book instead of socializing XD (joke. but I preferred reading and playing games at that time). That book pulled me deeper into the world of classical lit and I read my first Holmes story there. It was only after I graduated that my dad found the book again and said “Hey, I loved this story! I made a paper about it”. Suprisingly, my mom heard about it too and she shuddered. XD and because of that story, hilariously, my mom and dad blessed me to go to art school. 0_0;
Oh my God. I do not have enough space in this tiny box to tell you all my faves. I’ll just pick three then. From the Grimm’s, The Juniper Tree. From Andersen, The Snow Queen. And the African Myth of Anansi, when he stole The Book of Stories from the Sky God Nyamu (i think that was his name).
Harold Bloom’s stories and poems for extremely intelligent children of all ages, I think. It has both the red shoes and a Holmes story in there anyways.
Hi from me as well!! I’m glad you got the Red Shoes references as well. It got included when I ran across the fairy tale while researching chapter 1. It was one that escaped me as well, even though I grew up on Andersen’s works.
Just read through the comments and I noticed a Read or Die comment. Man that comic was seriously f*****. XD. It’s absurd. I am fascinated by things that discuss myths and legends, surrealism and/or a peek in the human mind (favorite author Neil Gaiman (excluding Beowulf.what was he thinking!?!), favorite director, Chris Nolan (personal faves, Inception and the Prestige)) . So I guess you can say ever since my childhood, I have obsessively read and/or watched stories about stories and their storytellers. XD
Wow. Thanks for “red shoes” ref. I’d read the story a couple of years ago, when I got a complete Grimms Fairy Tales, (Not that it’s in there, but i read a LOT of fairy tales that year). Had to read the Wiki entry on it. Looking at Karen, it makes sense that she’d put them on wooden feet. It would stop them. Nice Read or Die refrence, and “spirited away”. I don’t know if you two play any RPG’s, but if so I’d recommend Delieria by Laughing Pan Productions. The Fact that Vanessa / 46 sold her name might explain her schizoid behaviour. “Vanessa” might not have wanted to kill Karen. 46 might not have had a choice. Wonder if the control is immediate or gradual? Guess that would depend on the contract. Hopefully Vanessa put in a buy out clause. Some way she can buy her name back.
Ugh i feel like an idiot. Just went back to the “cover” of the story. “the dancer and the firebird” So Karen was the dancer, and vanessa is the firebird. Why do i sense love story gone wrong.
Telekinetic vs. pyrokinetic powers, selling your NAME, that’s some hardcore stuff there. It’s great that you have some useful discussion in the comments too or else I wouldn’t have picked up on most of your references, and it makes your research stand out even more. Love!
She sold her name? That is hardcore.
Quite!
Wow, selling your name… There’s no way I can even imagine what could be that for hahahahaha (Something serious I guess)
In most fairy tales, it gives you control over a person’s life… and allow identity theft!
I’m guessing that in a world where names have power, selling your name is like selling your soul. “Namesake” kinda makes that a very strong possibility.
Presumably you get some kind of power as a Nameless — but probably the kind that’s dark and creepy all around, and you work for someone (someTHING) that’s REALLY not-nice.
Nice to see Jack trying to save the nice side there, but given the time (early in the game) I’m assuming it won’t work. I have to wonder which Jack he is — there’s a LOT of Jacks in fairy tales, not to mention other media. Though he’s clearly not Captain Jack Sparrow (or Captain Jack Harkness, for that matter).
I love the two Jacks u mentioned, I must say that I prefer Harkness over Sparrow, but the actors are switched.
This is getting very interesting, however if I remember correctly the girl in the fairy tail that Karen is based off of is a brat, so to have her seem so innocent is a little confusing to me.
There was another story I remember, (barely any details though) about selling your name… I wonder if that is connected also…hmmm, curiouser and curiouser…
Captain Jack Harkness is definitely a favorite here, and I do picture him at times in my mind while writing – the Ninth Doctor version, not so much the Torchwood version.
Jack’s power reminds me of the anime/manga Read or Die. Paper can be deadly. XD
Doomsday papercuts
Look at Jack’s hands.
Yup, there’s something there.
Well this part, the “46″ thing…it reminds me a to “Spirited Away” when Yubaba; the old lady; takes away a part of the name of Chihiro and reduces it to Sen, giving her a “new” identity. I just could’n help to think about it ha ha.
Oh, and one more thing…why is Jack’s hand burned, I wonder?
Oh, “Spirited away!” good call. That’s one of my favorite movies. In many fairy tales (and in Asian culture) the name itself, owning it, knowing it, has immense power over a person. It’s one of the reason why stealing Yubaba’s sister’s gold seal (aka her signature) is a pretty mean thing to do.
Oh, i’d love to tell you guys about Jack’s hand. Too bad I can’t! *laughs* Future plot points.
“Sen” means a thousand in Japanese, so Yubaba isn’t jsut stealing Chihiro’s name, she’s reducing her to a number
hiya! oh wow! a story based on stories, archetypes and authors! this is truly a gem of all gems. the name selling is shocking (and accurate too! and hell yeah, I love studio Ghibli) and i’m intrigued to see WHICH Jack this is. Plus I grinned at the “girl with silver hands” reference and I actually thought the girl in the wheelchair was a reference to “wicked”….till I heard her name. My dad loved that fairy tale but he never told me about it till I studied in college. He told me he once did a paper on it. Wonder what he’ll think when he sees what “46″ did to her.
I’m so sorry for ranting, but please, I want you to know that you have made an instant fan out of me. I grew up loving nursery rhymes, fairy tales and ultimately, books- from classics to modern lit. I will be eagerly awaiting an update.
*laughs* I’m very glad you love this so much. I am myself a great literature/fairy tale fan! I always fall in love with stories like Namesake, so I wanted to create my own.
The girl without silver hands is one of my favorites.
I’m glad your father was a fan of the “red shoes”. I find it’s a really unknown one that deserves more love.
What’s your favorite tale?
That story was unknown? Hahahah! I came across the Red Shoes when I bought a book for “extremely intellegent minds”. It had everything! It was a collection of poems and prose from different authors. I spent my highschool reading that book instead of socializing XD (joke. but I preferred reading and playing games at that time). That book pulled me deeper into the world of classical lit and I read my first Holmes story there. It was only after I graduated that my dad found the book again and said “Hey, I loved this story! I made a paper about it”. Suprisingly, my mom heard about it too and she shuddered. XD and because of that story, hilariously, my mom and dad blessed me to go to art school. 0_0;
Oh my God. I do not have enough space in this tiny box to tell you all my faves. I’ll just pick three then. From the Grimm’s, The Juniper Tree. From Andersen, The Snow Queen. And the African Myth of Anansi, when he stole The Book of Stories from the Sky God Nyamu (i think that was his name).
If you don’t mind me asking, what IS this book? It sounds interesting =)
It’s called, “Prose and Poems for the Extremely Intelligent Mind” or sumthing like that. XD I know….it sounds evil. XD
Harold Bloom’s stories and poems for extremely intelligent children of all ages, I think. It has both the red shoes and a Holmes story in there anyways.
Hi from me as well!! I’m glad you got the Red Shoes references as well. It got included when I ran across the fairy tale while researching chapter 1. It was one that escaped me as well, even though I grew up on Andersen’s works.
Just read through the comments and I noticed a Read or Die comment. Man that comic was seriously f*****. XD. It’s absurd. I am fascinated by things that discuss myths and legends, surrealism and/or a peek in the human mind (favorite author Neil Gaiman (excluding Beowulf.what was he thinking!?!), favorite director, Chris Nolan (personal faves, Inception and the Prestige)) . So I guess you can say ever since my childhood, I have obsessively read and/or watched stories about stories and their storytellers. XD
Wow. Thanks for “red shoes” ref. I’d read the story a couple of years ago, when I got a complete Grimms Fairy Tales, (Not that it’s in there, but i read a LOT of fairy tales that year). Had to read the Wiki entry on it. Looking at Karen, it makes sense that she’d put them on wooden feet. It would stop them. Nice Read or Die refrence, and “spirited away”. I don’t know if you two play any RPG’s, but if so I’d recommend Delieria by Laughing Pan Productions. The Fact that Vanessa / 46 sold her name might explain her schizoid behaviour. “Vanessa” might not have wanted to kill Karen. 46 might not have had a choice. Wonder if the control is immediate or gradual? Guess that would depend on the contract. Hopefully Vanessa put in a buy out clause. Some way she can buy her name back.
Ugh i feel like an idiot. Just went back to the “cover” of the story. “the dancer and the firebird” So Karen was the dancer, and vanessa is the firebird. Why do i sense love story gone wrong.
AAAAH why is this page so cool?
Telekinetic vs. pyrokinetic powers, selling your NAME, that’s some hardcore stuff there. It’s great that you have some useful discussion in the comments too or else I wouldn’t have picked up on most of your references, and it makes your research stand out even more. Love!
(Comment reference to other work comment reference to other work BLAH BLAH BLAH GINGER…
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I think the art is pretty interesting. Okay, mythological story building is interesting too, but I thought the art deserved a shout-out.
From which story is vanessa? i dont recall any story that includes fire/firebird and a vanesa….