November 14-15, 2015
Leeds, United Kingdom - Meg
She sold her name? That is hardcore.
Wow, selling your name… There’s no way I can even imagine what could be that for hahahahaha (Something serious I guess)
In most fairy tales, it gives you control over a person’s life… and allow identity theft!
I’m guessing that in a world where names have power, selling your name is like selling your soul. “Namesake” kinda makes that a very strong possibility.
Presumably you get some kind of power as a Nameless — but probably the kind that’s dark and creepy all around, and you work for someone (someTHING) that’s REALLY not-nice.
Nice to see Jack trying to save the nice side there, but given the time (early in the game) I’m assuming it won’t work. I have to wonder which Jack he is — there’s a LOT of Jacks in fairy tales, not to mention other media. Though he’s clearly not Captain Jack Sparrow (or Captain Jack Harkness, for that matter).
I love the two Jacks u mentioned, I must say that I prefer Harkness over Sparrow, but the actors are switched.
This is getting very interesting, however if I remember correctly the girl in the fairy tail that Karen is based off of is a brat, so to have her seem so innocent is a little confusing to me.
There was another story I remember, (barely any details though) about selling your name… I wonder if that is connected also…hmmm, curiouser and curiouser…
Captain Jack Harkness is definitely a favorite here, and I do picture him at times in my mind while writing – the Ninth Doctor version, not so much the Torchwood version.
Jack’s power reminds me of the anime/manga Read or Die. Paper can be deadly. XD
Look at Jack’s hands.
Yup, there’s something there.
Well this part, the “46” thing…it reminds me a to “Spirited Away” when Yubaba; the old lady; takes away a part of the name of Chihiro and reduces it to Sen, giving her a “new” identity. I just could’n help to think about it ha ha.
Oh, and one more thing…why is Jack’s hand burned, I wonder?
Oh, “Spirited away!” good call. That’s one of my favorite movies. In many fairy tales (and in Asian culture) the name itself, owning it, knowing it, has immense power over a person. It’s one of the reason why stealing Yubaba’s sister’s gold seal (aka her signature) is a pretty mean thing to do.
Oh, i’d love to tell you guys about Jack’s hand. Too bad I can’t! *laughs* Future plot points.
“Sen” means a thousand in Japanese, so Yubaba isn’t jsut stealing Chihiro’s name, she’s reducing her to a number
a few years ago I came across a series called “The Black Company” it was interesting how in the series, knowing the real name of some with magic or to null the magic would mean losing the ability and it was mentioned many time that other horrible things could be done if you know their real name.
hiya! oh wow! a story based on stories, archetypes and authors! this is truly a gem of all gems. the name selling is shocking (and accurate too! and hell yeah, I love studio Ghibli) and i’m intrigued to see WHICH Jack this is. Plus I grinned at the “girl with silver hands” reference and I actually thought the girl in the wheelchair was a reference to “wicked”….till I heard her name. My dad loved that fairy tale but he never told me about it till I studied in college. He told me he once did a paper on it. Wonder what he’ll think when he sees what “46” did to her.
I’m so sorry for ranting, but please, I want you to know that you have made an instant fan out of me. I grew up loving nursery rhymes, fairy tales and ultimately, books- from classics to modern lit. I will be eagerly awaiting an update.
*laughs* I’m very glad you love this so much. I am myself a great literature/fairy tale fan! I always fall in love with stories like Namesake, so I wanted to create my own.
The girl without silver hands is one of my favorites. 😀 I’m glad your father was a fan of the “red shoes”. I find it’s a really unknown one that deserves more love.
What’s your favorite tale?
That story was unknown? Hahahah! I came across the Red Shoes when I bought a book for “extremely intellegent minds”. It had everything! It was a collection of poems and prose from different authors. I spent my highschool reading that book instead of socializing XD (joke. but I preferred reading and playing games at that time). That book pulled me deeper into the world of classical lit and I read my first Holmes story there. It was only after I graduated that my dad found the book again and said “Hey, I loved this story! I made a paper about it”. Suprisingly, my mom heard about it too and she shuddered. XD and because of that story, hilariously, my mom and dad blessed me to go to art school. 0_0;
Oh my God. I do not have enough space in this tiny box to tell you all my faves. I’ll just pick three then. From the Grimm’s, The Juniper Tree. From Andersen, The Snow Queen. And the African Myth of Anansi, when he stole The Book of Stories from the Sky God Nyamu (i think that was his name).
If you don’t mind me asking, what IS this book? It sounds interesting =)
It’s called, “Prose and Poems for the Extremely Intelligent Mind” or sumthing like that. XD I know….it sounds evil. XD
Harold Bloom’s stories and poems for extremely intelligent children of all ages, I think. It has both the red shoes and a Holmes story in there anyways.
Sounds inaccurately named. Generally, such stories are fanciful, but tend to fall flat on the logical deduction front.
Hi from me as well!! I’m glad you got the Red Shoes references as well. It got included when I ran across the fairy tale while researching chapter 1. It was one that escaped me as well, even though I grew up on Andersen’s works.
Just read through the comments and I noticed a Read or Die comment. Man that comic was seriously f*****. XD. It’s absurd. I am fascinated by things that discuss myths and legends, surrealism and/or a peek in the human mind (favorite author Neil Gaiman (excluding Beowulf.what was he thinking!?!), favorite director, Chris Nolan (personal faves, Inception and the Prestige)) . So I guess you can say ever since my childhood, I have obsessively read and/or watched stories about stories and their storytellers. XD
Wow. Thanks for “red shoes” ref. I’d read the story a couple of years ago, when I got a complete Grimms Fairy Tales, (Not that it’s in there, but i read a LOT of fairy tales that year). Had to read the Wiki entry on it. Looking at Karen, it makes sense that she’d put them on wooden feet. It would stop them. Nice Read or Die refrence, and “spirited away”. I don’t know if you two play any RPG’s, but if so I’d recommend Delieria by Laughing Pan Productions. The Fact that Vanessa / 46 sold her name might explain her schizoid behaviour. “Vanessa” might not have wanted to kill Karen. 46 might not have had a choice. Wonder if the control is immediate or gradual? Guess that would depend on the contract. Hopefully Vanessa put in a buy out clause. Some way she can buy her name back.
Ugh i feel like an idiot. Just went back to the “cover” of the story. “the dancer and the firebird” So Karen was the dancer, and vanessa is the firebird. Why do i sense love story gone wrong.
AAAAH why is this page so cool?
Telekinetic vs. pyrokinetic powers, selling your NAME, that’s some hardcore stuff there. It’s great that you have some useful discussion in the comments too or else I wouldn’t have picked up on most of your references, and it makes your research stand out even more. Love!
(Comment reference to other work comment reference to other work BLAH BLAH BLAH GINGER… )
I think the art is pretty interesting. Okay, mythological story building is interesting too, but I thought the art deserved a shout-out.
From which story is vanessa? i dont recall any story that includes fire/firebird and a vanesa….
She got a two-digit number? … Hmm… not good enough. She might as well not have bothered.
Names are an oddity… an oddity I came to understand recently that has a measure of irony to it.
Afterall, all these notions of names having power came from a time when communities were small, and mayhaps a name really did function effectively as a unique identifier…
BUT on the grander scale provided by the modern world, the majority of names are hardly unique… and frequently the overlap of names brings confusion in identification. In fact, adopting a number instead of a name would mark one as MORE unique… assuming it was a sufficiently complex and specific number that simple statistics alone would ensure nobody else in the world ever used it. “46” just won’t cut it.
AND to take this a step further… such things as names exist only to distinguish between people remotely. A sufficiently unique being would not require a name, as there would be no others from which to distinguish them…
Therein lies the irony.
For the record, I’m the only person going by “SotiCoto” on the Internet. The only one. Search for it, and all google results that arise are either by me, to me, about me… or made to troll me. I didn’t even need a number to achieve it.
Despite that, I prefer not to use any of my names where I have the option not to. Even having a name at all makes me feel like I’m just being stuffed into categories and shoved aside. Not pleasant.
I just started reading, so I don’t know if this is how it works out, but the book series ‘The Dresden Files’, which has a different approach to the names have power idea (The other common approach that knowing the name of someone or something gives power over them. The series even has the protagonist, Harry Blackstone Copperfield Dresden, selling his name in chunks to a demon.), has the concept of names being inherently different from one another. For example, I know two different people with the given name Samantha. Had one not abandoned that name completely, according to ‘The Dresden Files’, she would pronounce it subtly differently than my mother, who was also give that name, would.
Always good to see another fan of good fantasy/noir/(insert basically any genre here)! Dresden’s great; can’t wait for the next one!
I need to reread the series for like the fifth time before the next one comes out.
You can’t be “sufficiently unique,” man. That’s like saying “sufficiently infinite.” You either are unique or you aren’t.
Nevertheless, ‘unique’ can be qualified. You can be ‘nearly unique’ (one of twins), or ‘quite unique’ (one of a set or group), and you can be ‘sufficiently unique’ (a member of a set having only one known member – but other members may exist).
Yes, I know I’m joining a two year old conversation – isn’t the internet wonderful! – a link to this strip has just been published in the comments to a strip concerning Vanessa’s back-story.
why can Jack do that…since when did he have such power?
There’s a possibility that in order to survive in the supernatural worlds they’ve been thrust into, these characters may have acquired their powers through trade with the fey. Though if you trade your name for fire powers… I’d say you got the raw end of that bargain. Someone mentioned Studio Ghibli, so I may as well point out that Howel’s Moving Castle had a barter system of similar barbarity.
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