Sooooooo, if Elaine is his ‘real’ daughter, does this mean Emma is some sort of construct made with Daniel and his wife’s genetic code? Are her memories even real? Are the memories of her friends even real? Is this a Dawn from B:TVS situation? So. Many. Questions.
Looked it up in the phone book, dialed the numbers…
Yeah I made the same comment at one point. Have to admit I didn’t actually think it was going to be right. But it’s an interesting twist.
*sarcasm* yeah, locked up in a bottle with Calliope agents and djinn sounds real safe.
On a side note, is that supposed to be “expectations” plural in the bottom left panel, or is it actually correct?
Either sounds correct to me.
How reassuring, Nose. How very, very reassuring.
This sounds like an intro to cutting back to the bottle.
So Emma isn’t his real daughter, which means that Elaine isn’t her sister, or is she her half sister? Wow, what a development!
But they look ridiculously alike. There is no way they are not genetically related somehow. There’s got to be either some genetic manipulation or they’re half-sisters or something. Maybe it’s not her dad but they have the same mom?
Hmm… maybe they don’t look alike? Or at least they didn’t originally? Elaine is a writer. It’s possible she (or some other writer, or really any magical thing with the ability to change appearances) has warped the appearance of one of the two. It’s a bit far fetched, but certainly possible. It’s also possible that Emma’s genetic code or appearance has been tampered with by some scientific means, so that her appearance allows her to go into as many worlds as possible (Dorthys could only have brown or blond hair, it’s possible other stories have similar restriction on appearance). If the physical qualifications of these stories were biased towards more common traits, it would be logical that Elaine just coincidentally fit most of the traits too. Or maybe One just felt like making Emma look like her sister. That works too.
I look like lots of people I’m not related to. My husband and I have been asked if we’re siblings, and genetic testing says we’re not even 6th cousins.
Emma is some sort of artificial construct. They could probably make her look like anything they want her to.
The “not your real daughter” thing was brought up before: http://namesakecomic.com/comic/remember-your-place-37/
My theory is that Emma is like Dawn from Buffy the Vampire Slayer (i.e.: Emma was magically created and then magically “retconned” into being Daniel’s biological kid).
I’d forgotten Trinket’s nasty reference to the “thing in the other room.” I still find it hard to think of Emma as a construct.
That’s my theory as well!
There’s an earlier page (I forget which one) where it mentions that when a Namesake sells their name, they basically become two different people, the Namesake essence and the person without a name. If we interpret this literally, our Emma could be the Namesake part of Daniel’s daughter (who may be sleeping beauty?), and Daniel doesn’t consider our Emma to be really his because of a hatred for Namesakes, unnaturalness, or what-have-you. That would explain the resemblance to Elaine.
Or maybe she’s a construct written by Elaine? Or someone else? I’m still trying to sort out that term of endearment for Emma that Nose used once.
Suddenly I have to wonder if that “Sleeping Beauty” from the end of Chapter 16 is Daniel’s real daughter.
That was my first thought too!
holy crap Emma’s a construct
So having some honest conversation between Rippers is pretty cool. It seems that Daniel’s only in it to save his daughter, Elaine (?). But he also tried getting Emma away from One as much as possible, which wins points in my book. It’s interesting to note how he seems to hate One, loudly, and in front of One’s greatest lackey. So I’m assuming that he thinks it’s safe, and that Nose won’t take the message back to his pseudo-pop. That probably means that Nose hates One as much or more, wow. (Also boggling at the almost-friendliness of Nose here.)
I feel like these are the two leaders of the Fuck One resistance movement, but then Bird just joined and also killed a girl and everyone else looks too far in and kind of evil.
Or Nose doesn’t care if his lackeys hate him.
Am I the only one who thinks that the first line of the next page is going to be Daniel saying that Elaine’s not who he’s talking about?
He never actually states that that he only has one daughter. He just says that One has his “real daughter.” This definitely plays into my longstanding theory that the body in the bed is the REAL Emma and that the version we’re seeing now is an artificial form. (Also, have Nose and One even been alone together since he returned with the bottle? I suppose he could have been told about Elaine and Calliope being trapped offscreen, but I doubt it.)
Oh wow. I’d never thought of that. Not sure if Emma would be the woman in the bed specifically, but that is a fascinating theory. Also another interesting thought. How many were around for Elaine and Calliope’s spectacular bottle-ing? If it was just Nose and maybe one other than that would be an interesting thought, Nose hiding the bottle from One’s knowledge.
I believe Vanessa/Bird was at the battle on the rooftop as well. If Nose is manipulating Daniel into opening the bottle, Nose’s visit to Vanessa could be to prevent her from interfering.
hmmmm…. perhaps Emma’s backstory is less like Dawn from Buffy the Vampire Slayer (who discovered she was a wholly original construct) and more like Luke from Tales of the Abyss (who discovered he was actually a clone to replace the original after the original was kidnapped in childhood)? If I’m wrong about the Dawn theory, my money’s on the Luke theory.
Although it’s worth pointing out that Emma’s mom is still unnaccounted for, so it’s entirely possible that she’s “Sleeping Beauty.”
My guess is that the sleeper is Emma’s mom, and that her consciousness is hiding from One.
You forgot the title tag!
I did, I’m sorry! It’s added now!
Everyone pay attention to Dad’s reaction to this on Tuesday.
If he explodes, he actually thinks Colliape is dangerous, then he’s been lied to and we don’t have to think of him as a bad guy.
If he’s in any way relieved or unconcerned, then he knows his opponents are good people (and knows he’s being lied to), and is thus one of the bad guys, a liar himself, OR he’s being blackmailed.
Whatever the result, it will give us somewhere to stand.
Personally I predict the more ambiguous second option.
Or he realizes that Calliope a) thinks they’re doing the right thing with Namesakes and thus are misguided heroes, and b) won’t do it to Elaine because she’s not a Namesake. So Elaine’s as safe as she can be and still be in enemy territory. Of course, he doesn’t know about Fred & co., nor does he know Calliope’s side of the story.
Or, if he explodes, he might not want Elaine to be influenced by Calliope or be sucked into the whole Namesake mess.
Something strikes me as odd about Daniel’s dialogue here. “It was pointless to even try to change her future.” Is this what he was threatening Trinket with? Did he, in fact, attempt it?
The above quote and the threat to Trinket imply Dan is a writer. So Dan could have created the unlikely circumstances leading Emma to Oz & partial memories, in a circuitous way to avoid detection. Maybe. But since he isn’t the writer ‘responsible’ for Emma’s story (assuming that even applies in Emma’s case) his influence is probably limited. Perhaps the ability to alter stories/reality is stronger the more relevant details you have. Letting Dan know where his flesh&blood daughter’s location would then be the last thing One would do.
You know One, as someone who’s done multiple MRIs (feet first, but still), I can tell you that that comparison would not be particularly reassuring. It’s hard not to feel like you’re being swallowed alive by one of those machines. Of course, the fact that you’re creepy as F*** doesn’t help.
Seriously, every time he tries to act reassuring and friendly, he just gets creepier in my eyes.
I had a brain MRI once, as well as two different knee ones, and I hate those things. The brain one was the worst, but they were all lousy. You feel like you’re perfectly 100% still and they’re still telling you not to move… And the noise… Ugh!
Ugh, yeah.. I had a brain MRI with the contrast dye, which gave sort of a weird sensation on top of the noise and the general claustrophobia of the whole ordeal.
Not only would the comparison not be reassuring, it’d probably make it even worse.
Aww, no alt text for this page?
Hahaha, accidentally forgot it! It’s added now.
My son read the alt text and said, “Wow Mommy, you have something in common. YOU forgot to record Castle too!” Then I /facepalm and said I hope someone in my circle of family or friends did, or I’d be a very sad Mommy.
You can watch Castle on hulu.com; it does have ads, but at least you won’t miss it.
Only Hulu Plus, and I already pay for Netflix. I own the first five seasons already, and due to us getting sick, I missed four episodes.
The five most recent episodes are available free, I’m not subscribed and I watch them. The most recent is available the day after, so minor patience is required.
Every episode I clicked on said it requires Hulu Plus. I’m running Linux, so I do not know if that has anything to do with it, but I managed to see a couple on ABC’s site. Thanks for trying.
Good to know! Castle’s always been on my to-watch list, but I’ve only seen the first few episodes. Enough to go “Huh, they remind me of Eve and Roarke from the ‘In Death’ series!”
Only the most recent five episodes are available free, unfortunately. I love the In Death books; Peabody is my favorite though!
*squeak* Peabody’s my favorite too! I just love her endlessly. I still cry whenever I re-read “Visions in Death” during certain parts. I also adore Eve. OK, I pretty much love everyone. But Peabody is still my fave.
I don’t know how I feel knowing that Daniel enjoys ‘Castle’ too…
Castle is a fantastic show
HA! He’s not her real dad, that explains turning her over to One!
He raised her as his own; I don’t forgive him for this reason, though a Sophie’s choice between one child and another is almost forgivable.
I think it more probable that he pretended to raise her as his own. He sure loves her, but apparently he loves Eleaine MUCH MORE. I doubt that he would turn over Elaine to One.
I can sort-of see him… distancing himself, if he knew he’d have to give this one up from the beginning. Probably overcompensating with how he feels about Elaine, since she’s who he’s allowed to keep…
In the real world, far too many parents can rationalize having favorites and rationalizing unfair treatment. Happens with stepchildren & half-siblings all the time. Daniel regards our Emma as his daughter and therefore acknowledges a ‘duty’ to her .But if he regards her as ‘doomed,’ especially after he tried to help her & failed, well, emotional distancing is very human & not necessarily evil.
Wait wait wait-…I know there was speculation about whether this Emma was the real Emma but by the looks of it there was no fake versus real Emma, it was just..Emma was a construction herself(whether just her memories) and I guess that means she was adopted in some manner? @_@ So her and Elaine aren’t sisters? That sucks. Everything she knows is a lie? Poor dear ;_;
I assume he does mean Elaine when he says One has his daughter somewhere, because their people DO have them technically captured and likely all the father has received for information is that they have her.
Nose could just not be in on real Emma versus fake Emma and assumes he meant Elaine.
Could Elaine and Emma both be constructs somehow? I don’t remember if it has been explained elsewhere, but can writers affect stories they aren’t connected to normally?
Gah, this just gets more and more twisty… or perhaps One lied and Emma really is his daughter and he’s just saying she’s fake to twist with him more. D:
I have to say, I’m impressed at how quickly you kick these out. They’re beautiful, too.
3 times a week! Admire the badass *puts on shades and drives away*
To be honest, keeping the art black and white speeds up the process a lot.
I really love your monochromatic-ish-with-bits-of-colour style. Not to mention that consistent updates are more important to me than full colour. Namesake is the only webcomic I follow consistently and check for every update. I always know there will be one there (and I’m always looking forward to it)!
I’d have to say that I’m completely opposite. I read… hang on, lemme count ‘em… 54 webcomics. I read more than just that, but the others don’t update as consistently. Namesake IS one of my favourites, though. Right up there with Gunnerkrigg Court and El Goonish Shive.
Well I think it’s amazing that you do so much work and put so much into these comics. It’s really entertaining for me and fun to read. ;P Keep it up and have fun!
Emma isn’t Daniel’s ‘actual’ daughter, as in born-from-his-seed daughter, and Daniel’s a Ripper and possibly evil, but he loves her, and he tries his best. And Nose is seriously fricked up and psycho, but he loves (or obsesses over) Emma, too. Look at all these people who feel close to Emma: Warrick, Selva, Agha, Elaine… Emma is a good person. Even if she is a construct or Frankenstein’s monster-esque creature. She’s very different from Nose, who seems to be of similar origin. I wonder what made them so different?
I refuse to believe that Emma is not his daughter. I’m sticking with my “the Rippers own her” theory, maybe modified with some magical tomfoolery designed to trick Dan. It is all a ploy by the writer and artist to make us look the other way so they can give us a good, satisfying case of literary whiplash.
O_O Tuesday can’t come soon enough.
*clicks next button. Nothing happens. Clicks it again. Reloads. Still no new one* NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
I’ve finally caught up! I want to know what happens next!
Welcome to the group. I’ve worn that button out on multiple occasions
Huh? Both daughters look alike, and they both seem to have his nose,so what gives?!
first off, I LOVE THIS COMIC. good advertising on the authors’ parts…I saw a link on tumblr for Knot, and now i’m hooked. Secondly, I LOVE YOU AUTHORS. Your mouseovers and art are the BEST. Also, I’d be upset if i was missing castle too xDD
So wait a minute… “Her fighting spirit. That never changes.” Does that imply that there have been *multiple* versions of her created? Could be reading too much into it here, but that sounds to me like “No matter how many times we create an Emma (or maybe, no matter how many times we reprogram Emma?), she still has that one trait.” Hmmm.
The girl that appeared in (the girl we currently believe to be)Emma’s room is the original holder consciousness inside Emma. Lets call this girl Emma Prime. The character we currently know as Emma is in the body of the daughter of Daniel and his namesake wife, a body which is strong enough to contain the memories and abilities of a “skeleton key”. Nose is in love with Emma Prime. That’s why Nose wanted to see her so badly. It is also why he is going to try to break Emma out of the house, because he thinks she is his Emma.
In short: Emma isn’t Emma, the girl in Emma’s room is who Emma thinks she is, Nose loves the girl Emma thinks she is, and Emma is Daniels real daughter.
Just a guess, but having read this all today I think this is a fresh perspective.
I think it’s that they caused her to lose her name and separated her body from her “name/existence/soul”… I think the current Emma was taken from “emma” prime who is actually possibly Dorothy…
Okay, so I’ve been thinking a lot about what’s going on. Here’s my current theory:
Ozma did something when the first Dorothy arrived so she wouldn’t have to lose her. Uncle Henry helped her as did Nick (see Nick’s conversation with Ozma and Scarecrow’s last words). This disrupted the balance of the worlds and holes started appearing. Just like Uncle Henry has been accumulating magic so did Ozma (they both stole people’s names- Jellia Jamb, anyone). Uncle Henry looks very much like Henry Lidell and I think the vorpal sword in the tree was his dtr’s ghost. I think Dorothy is also inside Emma, who is literally Pandora (All-gifted)- that is the ancient fable who could open all the worlds- the gods made Pandora and Uncle Henry is making her. Her sleeping body, or perhaps her mother’s, is upstairs. I think her mother was a Dorothy (we never hear her named, b/c then we’d know) and she was a Dorothy, but now she’s Emma “All”. I think Uncle Henry is trying to live forever, just like Chesari, we see the Skeleton King everywhere and Emma is a skeleton key. The manor is covered in vines, just like Oz. Warrick sent his heart to Ozma, and Ozma’s heart is Dorothy, so Warrick’s heart is with Dorothy. Warrick needs to come to our world. I think Warrick and Selva are Namesakes from Oz- like Thumbelina. Chesari talks about how they both have unbelievable power in them, just like Emma… Okay, that’s a rough and dirty sketch of how it all fits together. Wanted to get my thoughts about before we find out for sure…
Wait… if Elaine IS the ‘real daughter’ that Daniel was talking about, since Nose brought her name up, then HOW is that even possible especially if Emma ISN’T his real daughter too? Elaine like a little mini-me version of Emma when it comes to looks. *lol* Same dark skin, same weirdly shaped nose, same dark hair, same everything. So if Daniel considers Elaine his REAL daughter, why does she look so much like Emma?
aww, the last panel’s sad. It might be true, but Emma remembers being his real daughter.
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