Purple is the Gillikin color. Gillikin is considered the wildest and most dangerous of the four countries of Oz — rougher terrain, rougher people, less well explored.
Don’t you mean the Vinkus? I mean as far as the “wildest and most dangerous of the four countries of Oz.” Cause thats where Elphaba lived for the later part of her life. Its the home of warring tribes and deserts. Isn’t Gillikin the most civilized and most wealthy of the four Countries? The colors might be right, but the description of the country of Gilkin is not.
It’s a bit more complicated then that in fact. In the “Wicked” adaptation, Gillikin is portrayed as more prosperous and industrially developed than other regions of Oz, and is home of Shiz University. “Vinkus” is not a place that exists in the original books. It was created for “Wicked” by the author. “Vinkus” is actually, on an original Oz map, the “Winkie” country ruled by the Wicked Witch of the West before Dorothy “melted” her with a bucket of water in The Wonderful Wizard of Oz; since then, the Tin Woodman ruled over the Winkies as their Emperor.
“Winkie country” renamed “Vinkus” in Wicked was probably identified as the most “violent” of all lands since it was the Wicked Witch’s place and it’s pretty close to a recurring enemy in the original books, called the gnome king.
So, depending on the writer, Gillikin can be considered a horrible place or a great place.
But, in all honesty, even the original author, Frank Baum, wasn’t really one to uphold canon. He often contradicts himself.
It’s true that Baum wasn’t all that consistent, but his inconsistencies mostly followed a fairly obvious pattern. There’s no way to reconcile any of his work well with “Wicked” — I’d have an easier time with “Tin Man”, and that’d take some hard work.
(I’m surprised at you, though. “GNOME” king? NOME! Nome King! It was only the later writers that for reasons completely opaque to me decided that despite Baum *being* deadly consistent with that usage throughout 14 books, they would put a “G” in front)
Sounds like they may still have a witch problem in this version. This is why when you travel to Oz you should always do so by house. It clears out the local pests.
Jake mine would be more likely along the lines of “meh Oz great whats next on the list?” but then I’m at a point in my life where it would take a act of god(s) and/or goddess to get to much of a reaction from me. So what is next on the list for Emma?
:3 Ryk that was my thinking as well super soakers would be nice to have as well as a few eggs. Yaaaaaaaaa no I would not be doing the singing bit as I don’t care for singing.
Of course, it’s always the case that these “transfer you to strange new world” things always choose some young innocent, or a helpless guy, or whatever.
Someday I want to see one where the random forces select Samuel L. MF-ing JACKSON as the not-so-hapless transferee to Oz or wherever.
Ryk, you make a good point. Why does the Universe/ fate/ forces of good / whatever ALWAYS pick some helpless innocent to defeat the Big Bad Guy? (exception: Chronicles of Riddick) You’d think they’d go: “Hmm what we need is someone who actually knows what they’re doing. ” Still, it would make for a good story wouldn’t it?
I have a couple stories plotted which use that idea. But yes, it’s awfully common. Stephen Donaldson in particular did this, choosing very broken people from our world whose particular TYPE of brokenness would make them much slower to effectively act. If you’d dumped the typical RPG geek into the Mordant’s Need dualogy, they’d have made mincemeat of Eremis and his buddies in about thirty seconds flat once they got the rules down.
Go read Andre Norton’s original Witch World novel. Our transplanted protagonist is a resouceful disgraced soldier who get’s dropped into magic land. And he kicks some butt! There’s emotional stuff but it’s not all overplayed and annoying. One of my favorites.
I actually plotted out an Oz story once in which a small group of soldiers got dropped into Oz — and right into not only physical fights, but conflict with some of the locals over the best way to handle things. I never followed through because I didn’t think Oz book lovers would take to that kind of realism showing up in Oz, but that was before Wicked.
The “Dot in Oz” comics were set that way with an updated feel. Like finding a rotting SS soldier from the last world war in a stable as an example. Dot as daughter of Dorthy and a kick ass agent.
Heeheehee. I love that reaction.
I wonder, does purple have any particular signifigance in OZ?
Purple is the Gillikin color. Gillikin is considered the wildest and most dangerous of the four countries of Oz — rougher terrain, rougher people, less well explored.
Don’t you mean the Vinkus? I mean as far as the “wildest and most dangerous of the four countries of Oz.” Cause thats where Elphaba lived for the later part of her life. Its the home of warring tribes and deserts. Isn’t Gillikin the most civilized and most wealthy of the four Countries? The colors might be right, but the description of the country of Gilkin is not.
It’s a bit more complicated then that in fact. In the “Wicked” adaptation, Gillikin is portrayed as more prosperous and industrially developed than other regions of Oz, and is home of Shiz University. “Vinkus” is not a place that exists in the original books. It was created for “Wicked” by the author. “Vinkus” is actually, on an original Oz map, the “Winkie” country ruled by the Wicked Witch of the West before Dorothy “melted” her with a bucket of water in The Wonderful Wizard of Oz; since then, the Tin Woodman ruled over the Winkies as their Emperor.
“Winkie country” renamed “Vinkus” in Wicked was probably identified as the most “violent” of all lands since it was the Wicked Witch’s place and it’s pretty close to a recurring enemy in the original books, called the gnome king.
So, depending on the writer, Gillikin can be considered a horrible place or a great place.
But, in all honesty, even the original author, Frank Baum, wasn’t really one to uphold canon. He often contradicts himself.
It’s true that Baum wasn’t all that consistent, but his inconsistencies mostly followed a fairly obvious pattern. There’s no way to reconcile any of his work well with “Wicked” — I’d have an easier time with “Tin Man”, and that’d take some hard work.
(I’m surprised at you, though. “GNOME” king? NOME! Nome King! It was only the later writers that for reasons completely opaque to me decided that despite Baum *being* deadly consistent with that usage throughout 14 books, they would put a “G” in front)
Whoops. Sorry. Typo. Nome! *laughs*
I so love Oz book fans … for many years I thought I was the only one.
(Don’t get me wrong — I also loved Wicked, even if it’s not the “real” Oz.)
We’re talking here about the real Oz, not the rather mangled version that shows up in “Wicked”.
Now, let’s be nice. A lot of fans love “Wicked”. I myself am a fan of the musical version.
But you are not using it and anyone proceeding from THAT as a source will be hopelessly lost.
LOL! Oh loving her expression with the Hell No! *snerk*
Best. reaction. Ever.
ROFL.
Poor, poor Emma. XD
She’s in for a ride.
“Yellow?
Oh HELL no.”
She’s a poet and don’t know it. Hopefully she won/t have to rhyme all the time. It could be a crime.
Sounds like they may still have a witch problem in this version. This is why when you travel to Oz you should always do so by house. It clears out the local pests.
If I could fave comments, I would fave this one in a second
Seconded.
Thank you!
Hahahahahahhaaaa!!!!
Hahahaha! XD Love it!
I do believe that my reaction would be the same.
Ditto.
Hey, Agha has Toph hair!! Was that intentional or what? LOL!
Is it going to be in color from here on out?
Jake mine would be more likely along the lines of “meh Oz great whats next on the list?” but then I’m at a point in my life where it would take a act of god(s) and/or goddess to get to much of a reaction from me. So what is next on the list for Emma?
What’s next? Mortal Kombat with the witch, of course. What else?
Now if she just has a squirtgun in her pocket for scaring off feral cats or little sisters or something…
Singing perhaps? Where IS that lollipop guild?
:3 Ryk that was my thinking as well super soakers would be nice to have as well as a few eggs. Yaaaaaaaaa no I would not be doing the singing bit as I don’t care for singing.
Yes. And for your dose of Ozly Wrong today, here:
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Yeah, I think my reaction would be the same. Deep breaths Emma. And rake your brain for every scrap of info, and be nice the munchkins.
Being nice is probably the best course of action.
Of course, it’s always the case that these “transfer you to strange new world” things always choose some young innocent, or a helpless guy, or whatever.
Someday I want to see one where the random forces select Samuel L. MF-ing JACKSON as the not-so-hapless transferee to Oz or wherever.
Ryk, you make a good point. Why does the Universe/ fate/ forces of good / whatever ALWAYS pick some helpless innocent to defeat the Big Bad Guy? (exception: Chronicles of Riddick) You’d think they’d go: “Hmm what we need is someone who actually knows what they’re doing. ” Still, it would make for a good story wouldn’t it?
I have a couple stories plotted which use that idea. But yes, it’s awfully common. Stephen Donaldson in particular did this, choosing very broken people from our world whose particular TYPE of brokenness would make them much slower to effectively act. If you’d dumped the typical RPG geek into the Mordant’s Need dualogy, they’d have made mincemeat of Eremis and his buddies in about thirty seconds flat once they got the rules down.
Go read Andre Norton’s original Witch World novel. Our transplanted protagonist is a resouceful disgraced soldier who get’s dropped into magic land. And he kicks some butt! There’s emotional stuff but it’s not all overplayed and annoying. One of my favorites.
I actually plotted out an Oz story once in which a small group of soldiers got dropped into Oz — and right into not only physical fights, but conflict with some of the locals over the best way to handle things. I never followed through because I didn’t think Oz book lovers would take to that kind of realism showing up in Oz, but that was before Wicked.
Probably not before PJF’s “A Barnstormer in Oz”, though…
The “Dot in Oz” comics were set that way with an updated feel. Like finding a rotting SS soldier from the last world war in a stable as an example. Dot as daughter of Dorthy and a kick ass agent.
I completely and totally want that last panel for an icon……that’s all I have to say.